GESHE NGAWANG SHERAP
An interview conducted during Geshe Sherap's course on'How to Deal with Emotions in Daily Life'held from the 14th to the 25th of August, 2002 at the Albagnano Healing Meditation Center, located in Albagnano di Bee, Verbania, Italy (Geshe Nwagang Sherap was interviewed exclusively by Augusto Bruni and Rubens Turkienicz)
Question: Please tell us why are you here and what is your programme.? Geshe Sherap: Since 1993 I have been traveling regularly to many countries in Asia, Europe, South America and North America. Every year I travel around the world for about six months - during which time I try to share with people about Buddhism and how one can try to become a good human being, a happier human being.
My main intention for traveling around is to share with people the message of Buddha and, through that, to understand how we can become good human beings. That is really something very important for all human beings - so I thought that maybe I could contribute a little bit of that to the people I come in contact with. That's why I have been traveling around regularly since 1993.
This year I started my journey here in Albagnano and Milano for a few days. Then I went to Venezuela, covering three cities; then to Quito, Ecuador; after that I visited Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, and then four cities in Brazil.Then I came back here for a short while; later I spent two weeks in Switzerland - were I visited with my two brothers and their families - and then I came back here on the 12th of August to give this 10-day course on 'How to Deal with our Emotions in Daily Life'.Upon completing this course I will be going to England for one week and, after that, I will be returning to Nepal - thus completing this year's programmed tour.
Question: We understand you are a true globetrotter, one who spreads the teachings of Buddhism to people of many nationalities. We hear that, from a Buddhist perspective, the human mind is always the same wherever one goes and the cultural differences between peoples are merely a varnish that covers the surface, while we are all basically the same. Could you please talk to us about that - that cultural differences are merely superficial, that the basic functioning of the human mind is always and basically the same?
Question: We hear that, from a Buddhist perspective, the mind is one and the same for all human beings; that cultural differences between peoples are just superficial coats of varnish over that same essential core and the same basic functions. Could you please explain that to us?
Geshe Sherap: Yes, that is very true. One thing I very often come across when traveling around the world... Many people ask me the same question: How do you find the different countries and peoples from different cultures, how they interact with their different cultural backgrounds, and that kind of thing. I think it is really difficult to answer that, because, when I try to examine that, what I find is that all of us human beings the world over are no different from each other; as human beings, we are basically the same - with our emotions, mentality, experiences, difficulties, hopes and wishes - these are all the same.Different cultures and different ways of thinking do seem to be what you are saying, just some painting on the same basic background, on the same basic wall - which is no different for all human beings: deep down we all wish to be happy and to avoid suffering, so there is no basic difference at all among human beings. Differences of races [ethnicities], cultures and religions are only the surface; deep down we are all the same as human beings. That is what I have been seeing. During my experience of meeting different people, from many different countries and continents, I really have not seen any [basic] difference.
Question: Geshe-la, your booklet starts by saying that "Buddhism is a way of life or a philosophy, a guidance for good living which is telling us to search for ways to live a good life by our own efforts. It teaches us to be ourselves and to be responsible for our life and actions. Buddhism teaches us to be aware of the way we live and the environment around us." Could you please tell us why we should bother to control our minds, why bother to train our minds, why do it, what is the use of it?
Geshe Sherap: This is an interesting point to raise: Why do we need to bring change to the way we really behave and why we need to bring some kind of control to our mind or our emotions?First of all, because nobody likes to be unhappy, nobody wants to have problems and to suffer. Everyone wants to be happy, everyone wants to have peace and happiness - this is a fact for every one of us on this Earth.So, wanting to be happy and not wanting to be unhappy are very simple things, and very fundamental too. We cannot become happy simply by wanting it. We cannot avoid being unhappy simply by wanting it. So how to do it, and why?Here comes the question of why first we really need to understand the mind, and then the attitude of the mind - how the mind responds to situations - so as to have a correct response to different situations.We have built-up habits, and these are not things that we actively think about each moment, when we are responding. In our habitual pattern, we react to life. We do not think freshly about that on each moment in which we try to interact with or respond to each situation. If we are able to do that, there is no need to change anything, no need to control our mind.At present, we have had this kind of habit, and, based on this habitual pattern, we just react to each situation that comes in our life - and that brings the difficulties of facing undesirable situations; and, then, because of those undesirable situations, we become either angry or unhappy, we become sad and this kind of undesirable things nonetheless, we still do it.That is a contradiction: on one side, we do not want to be unhappy; on the other hand, we become unhappy because the situation is not what we want [it to be]. That situation is really not good, then why should we react like that? Thus, we need to learn not to behave in the wrong way, to behave in the right way. Instead of reacting, we learn how to respond to situations. It is crucial for us to understand the difference between reacting and responding to situations.
Question: A lot of people, when they hear what you just said, they say "Aha! Here is magic! I want to be rich in order to be happy. So, I will train my mind to be rich. I want to marry a beautiful partner, I want to have a beautiful house - and so on. In Buddhism this attitude is known as Spiritual Materialism. Could you please explain to us how this works? May one just wish for material things and call on spirituality in order to get them? Can Buddhism be a method for achieving material objects?
Geshe Sherap: This is a matter of understanding what is happiness and unhappiness.We understand happiness as a state of mind, whether you have material things or not. Happiness is a state that has to be developed by the human mind, how you respond to situations.As to the question you raise about when one wants to become rich, to obtain certain [material] things, to have a good partner, a big house, a big car, etc. - what are all those things for? This is when we think that happiness depends on material objects. That means that we have not yet understood correctly what is to be happy. First, let us try to understand this. Many people want to be rich in order to be happy. When we examine it, we see that there are many [some?] people in this world who are rich - millionaires and even billionaires who have a lot of money, houses and everything. When we observe them, we notice that they are not necessarily happy. Despite having all the things that they wish for, they are still not happy. That shows that material wealth not necessarily will bring happiness.On the other side, we might think that not having material possessions might make one unhappy - that is another extreme view we may fall into. Furthermore, we may also see many people who are considered materially poor, who do not possess a lot of things. When we observe them, we see that they are not necessarily unhappy; they manage their lives and at least do not seem to be unhappy.So, not having material possessions not necessarily make one unhappy; possession of material things does not necessarily make one happy.So what? Learning how to be happy is different from possessing material things, or not. Therefore, the question is a little bit different and may be a little difficult for common people to understand.First we have to see that satisfaction - being satisfied - is a clue to being happy. Dissatisfaction is a point that leads us to unhappiness.So, satisfaction - or, in other words, contentment - what is it? That is a very important mental attitude. When you have something, be satisfied with that. We need to learn to be happy, we need to learn - whatever we may have, or not - to be satisfied with that.Not being able to have things has nothing to do with becoming unhappy. When we are not able to have things, when there is no cause and conditions for having things, therefore ... Instead of being unhappy, we need to learn how to meet the cause and conditions for being happy. That means that we must be able to create the conditions for that to happen, and only
then we may be able to have that thing... But, as we have already said, even when we do have many things, we may not necessarily be happy.Therefore, why should we always run after material things? One can also be happy without material things. One can also be unhappy having all material things. Therefore, this is a matter of how we perceive things in life, how we actually experience life.And that is what the mind does. Some people do not have a very healthy body - and, still, they are not unhappy. Some people have a very healthy body - and, still, they are not happy. Some people are very well known, but they are still not happy. And some people are not well known at all, or even not known by most people, and they are not necessarily unhappy.So, our happiness does not depend on many of these factors - which we might mistakenly think to be necessary to be happy.Therefore, as we examine these points, we begin to see that it is all of question of our attitude towards life. You may have only a few things and be satisfied with that. You may have a few more things, and learn how to be satisfied with that. You could have a lot of things and, even then, if you learn how to be satisfied, it is OK.On the other hand, if you have a lot of things and are still not satisfied, the number of things will never make you happy. That is why billionaires are also unhappy - the number did not make any difference to them, the quantity of their material possessions did not make them happy. This is something we have to understand very clearly.
Question: Jumping to a conclusion, the number of things cannot make us necessarily happy, as you just said. As we look at the modern world, apparently there seems to be an identification between the available number of goods and happiness. According to this view, the number of things we may buy in this huge supermarket that is present everywhere in the Western world does not necessarily bring us happiness. So, according to the inner mechanism of the Western society - which is to produce goods and to make them available to the highest number of people - seems to be the inner reason for people to be happy.Because of this vision that you are expressing, that a higher number of things/goods not necessarily makes us happy, how can we resolve a lot of the problems present in the world? - simply by sharing the excess of goods available, which can reduce the imbalance between people who have a lot and people who have nothing; or simply acting on the mechanism of reproduction of material things itself?
Geshe Sherap: First, let us try to understand this.It is the individuals who compose the society. If each individual does not learn to avoid being unhappy, if each one does not learn to be happy by developing an appropriate attitude towards life, then the society as a whole can never become a better society, because the constituents of the society is each individual.Therefore, if we do not focus on the education of the individuals, so that they can understand very clearly what makes them happy, what makes them unhappy... therefore, without educating them, anything developing in the society alone [by itself?] will not bring what we are looking for.While educating the individuals to handle the situation themselves, we need also to bring a change in the society - which means that we must have an equitable distribution of things available.Of course, when we talk about the distribution of things on an equitable basis, it does not mean that everything should be divided equally to each and everyone - that is not possible. But, what we have to see is that there is no exploitation.What we have to see is that we improve the possibility of individuals being able to work for what they need. One thing is to see that there is no exploitation, and the other is to really educate the people to share if they have an excess of possessions. Because the excess of possessions is going to be wasted. Whatever we require, we need to keep and we utilize it. Beyond what is required, we need to really learn to share with other people.Also in economics, whenever there is an excess of production, then it becomes a problem for the economy. Therefore, they try either to reduce production, or they try to keep this in a kind of stock (or even dump away) so that that, whenever there is less production, these can be brought to meet the demand. This is one way of thinking about economics.Reduction of production to safeguard the economy is not a very healthy practice - because not only price decrease is prevented but also wastage of resources occurs in many cases. So, instead of throwing the excess of products into the sea such products could be beneficially shared with many less privileged people in the neighbouring areas so this is a more positive and realistic attitude than destroying or stopping the production.Secondly, we must develope a healthy attitude in our economics, specially in pricing of commodities because we understand too that the build-up of the prices of products in order to allow certain section of the population to be able to earn even beyond the necessity that is the second negative aspect of our economy.Of course, if you work you will definitely earn. But then why should you earn excessively more than necessary? Because some people become millionaires and billionaires - and what do they do with those wealth? When they leave this life, they have to leave it without taking anything with them. This is the excessive power of some people reflecting on the larger section of the population of the earth ... that is not a healthy balance. So, therefore, we need not really complain against those people who can manage to produce more - we welcome that. It is a very good idea. But then people must also learn to share these things with other people.And, then, suppose that now in many parts of the world there is also the problem
of the economy going up and down; one result of it going down is because there is less investment, because people are afraid that they will lose their investment - so they try to take away their investment and, naturally, there is a fall-down of the economy. Because of fear the larger economy itself is let down. Again, this is coming from a selfish attitude of some people... that a lot of the economy itself is affected in a negative way. Therefore, we have to learn to see how we can live a good life trying to share as much as possible, and at least not bringing negative effects on others. Even if one cannot benefit other people, at least one should avoid harming other people. This is the first step. Having good life for oneself, no doubt, is good and one should always make efforts towards that, but such efforts should never contribute towards causing of harm to others in any way.
Question: Yes, Geshe-la, this leads us to another very important point: the point of increasing the sense of responsibility all over the world. At least, as you say, there is a positive effect if you stop harming and giving feedback - because just stopping harming reduces the quantity of suffering all over the world and, from that basis can grow a deeper sense of responsibility and a vision of how things are linked together in the world.My question is: now that the word "globalization" has become fashionable - from the Buddhist point of view - I imagine, from what I know - that the world has always been one and globalized, because of the same mental attitude of people all over the world. How can we see this in a broader perspective, that means.....being aware of the consequences on a larger scale than the local one. I am talking about the environment and [how?] things, even [when?] made locally, can affect the whole situation of the whole planet.
Geshe Sherap: This is a good way of thinking: how people actually know the essence of that message? But that message is already there. The message is: think globally and act locally. This is a very very good way of thinking. But how far do people really understand the essence of this message?We cannot act globally. Actions can only takes place locally. That's why I started earlier saying that first individuals must start learning to act correctly, therefore the change will come in the society gradually. Without individuals acting correctly and bringing change in their attitude, no kind of change in the society will be possible.Acting locally and thinking globally - because one must understand that what one does has an impact on the society in which one lives, therefore is very appropriate. Consequently one can also understand that if the society is good, one will also be benefited. If the society is going to run in the wrong direction, then, eventually, one is also going to suffer.So, this is also an indicator of what will bring to me, of what will happen also to me in the long run, I will also begin to act correctly. That I will not be affected negatively.Now there is a lot of exploitation of the resources of this earth and some people, without really thinking well about the benefit of the larger community of the world, they try to exploit the resources to the disadvantage of the community as a whole, to the disadvantage of the earth as a whole.Therefore, there is a great imbalance as well as the over exploitation of the resources.As we go through the different data available, very few [small] percentage of the people on this earth consume more than the majority of the people. And this shows a total imbalance.And it also shows how these people are not able to feel the responsibility... when they are to consume, if they are able to take advantage of the resources, why don't they also feel the same kind of responsibility to give back to the community, to give back to the earth the resources.So, therefore, we have to also learn to develop this responsibility, and this responsibility is not only individual - this responsibility as individuals as well as a community, the country, the region to the humanity and the Earth as a whole.Therefore, we can give a better kind of word for that, that is, universal responsibility - it is something that we really need to develop. From the Buddhist point of view, when we talk about the Boddhichitta mind that is in the sense of universal compassion and responsibility towards everyone and everything. A Boddhichita mind is that of someone who can understand the needs of the largest majority of the people... That human being is able to understand that "whatever I am doing for myself should never work against others. Even if it does not benefit others, the attitude is... should think not only of not going against others, one should think to bring benefits to the majority.Therefore, we really have to learn how to be a good human being by becoming a sensible and understanding human being.
Question: Geshe-la let us take this further. H.H. The Dalai Lama has a text about universal responsibility in which he says that, if each individual in this world would simply follow what is called minimum ethics - not doing unto others what one would not want to have done to oneself - the world would already be a better place.When most people hear that, they say "Why? I am a free person! I make my own destiny. I don't want anybody to tell me what is right and what is wrong, nor the 'musts' and the 'have-to'." Can you please clarify what is the difference between freedom to choose and responsibility to choose?
Geshe Sherap: Now, that is again a very important point to ponder about.During the last century or so, we have had this idea of freedom and liberty - and it is a very good idea that we should have freedom and liberty - but, at the same time, we must understand that everyone has freedom and liberty.So, behind my freedom and liberty is also the responsibility of respecting other people's freedom and liberty. So, my freedom is not a one-sided kind of affair; my freedom is something... if others respect it, I can enjoy it; if others don't respect it, I cannot enjoy it. So, to demand or expect that others respect my freedom and liberty, then I must learn to respect their freedom and liberty. So, therefore, without learning about the responsibility and without respecting others' freedom and liberty, we can never enjoy our freedom. So, freedom is not a one-sided affair, it is double-sided.On the other side of the coin of this freedom is also the responsibility. You want to enjoy your freedom of wanting whatever you want; but then, if others don't respect it, what will happen? You will just simply cry and you will complain; and you cannot complain about this, because you didn't respect others, you didn't really respect others' freedom.So, therefore, it comes back to our nose. Freedom also means responsibility. So, therefore, this mistake we have already been making by simply talking only about freedom but never even thinking about responsibility.On the other side, of course, in some cases, we tend to think also of duty when we talk about freedom - rather we should say right and duty. You have the right, but then you also have the duty. So, without paying you can't get anything, you can't buy anything without paying; so, paying is like the duty and gettinging is like the right.So, in relation to right and duty, then freedom and liberty also have another side, which is this feeling of responsibility. That is what we need to really develop, this clear understanding that everything has this other side to them...
Question: This leads to another interesting question, because...When we learn how to deal with the environment around us - that means [also?] other people - under the sign of liberty and responsibility, one of the side effects of being aware of this mechanism is the understanding that, after all, the question of need is a kind of mobile order... because... I would say... mobile border...Because, in effect, when you ask somebody "What are your needs?" somebody is just responding in terms that are very different from another being... simply laying on the cultural factors of the place where he has [been] born - means... also to be related to the quantity of material goods that he have [has] - so it is possible that somebody [the person will] answer you "Oh, my needs are to have a big car, a big swimming pool, a big house - these are my basic needs" - while somebody else would even be happy to have water running into his own house. So, in the process of learning how to be a good human being within [...] liberty and responsibility, isn't it more deep to look exactly... what does it mean "need" for each human being - because this is also leads to a lot of misunderstanding... because people that pretend that there is a minimum need for everybody - which is understandable - and somebody else simply denies it?
Geshe Sherap: OK, now... Need is something that we can understand in general... not by individuals themselves - what they say is a need, need not be a need.Need is something others can also understand as a need. So, simply, individually, making a demand for something as a need... that does not justify it. Need is something others can also understand that it is a need.So, there is a kind of general understanding that has to be developed. Because we must make a distinction between need and want. So, someone may be using the word "need" instead of the word "want", even when it is only a want. So, a big house, a big car... it is not a need; it is a demand or a want. When you have the possibility of having a bigger house, fine... nobody can really deny this... you are able to have, it is OK, you go ahead and have it. But, when it comes to actually understanding a need, then you have to forget about your want.First we must start from this basic fundamental understanding of need: what is a need for you will also be a need for another person; what is a need for another person can also be a need for you. But what is a want for you need not necessarily be a want for another person.So, therefore, we have to basically understand what we mean by the words we use. We use a beautiful word like "need" covering up your "want" - that is a mistake.
Question: Let's talk about karma. Many people use that word to mean something like destiny, some kind of fixed route that our lives must take. Buddhism talks about karmic change all the time - starting with the mind. Can you please explain in simple terms how karma affects everybody's life - does it affect everybody's life?
Geshe Sherap: Can you say again what is the last part of it?
Question: The question is about karma - understood as action - and about changing karma. Each person faces a certain situation at present, and then there is the future. Some people would say that the future is already pre-determined. Buddhism says "No, no, no! The future is not pre-determined. What we do today will be the cause for what will happen tomorrow." Why does Buddhism say that?
Geshe Sherap: Now... One thing we have to clearly understand is that Buddhism is not something that has come out as a revealed [revelation], this kind of thing. It [Buddhism] is not a revealed truth, it is an understanding arrived at; and this understanding arrived at can also be ... each one of the living beings can get to that understanding. So, it is not something that is imposed on us, [something] that we can't do anything about.So, Buddhism is the realization or the understanding arrived at by... for instance, in our understanding, by Siddharta Gautama - who became a Buddha, an enlightened one, 2500 years ago. As Siddhartha searched for the truth... and then as he found, he began to share.it saying that "this is how I saw it." And he said: "Please go over the same kind of experiment as I went through. So do it yourself. When you see it and you will confirm it, then there will be no need to say "do it or dont do it." It will be entirely up to the individual. The Buddha very emphathetically stated that one must examine and analyse his teachings as would a gold smith analyse gold and accept the points thereafter but not out of respect for him.This is what the Buddha said, and this is a very challenging statement any teacher of truth has made. This signifies the essential quality of the Buddhas teachings.OK, so, among the great amount of teachings the Buddha has left with us, the principle of karma - that is the principle of the actions and their consequences also referred to as the the cause and effect principle - is one of the basic and fundamental teachings. Of course, the word "karma" means action in Sanskrit in the sense of intented action, physical or verbal or mental action out of volition, any action for which one had an intention for whatever reason. So, this kind of action is said to be a karma.Any activity would not necessarily be understood as karma; for instance, any reflexive movement of the hand without intention to do so. Such movement though a physical kind of action, will not be understood as a karma in the true sense as no intention has preceded it.Therefore, now what we need to understand is that for each action there would definitely be a corresponding effect. So, such effect as a consequence may be experienced by the doer of that action in another time whenever the appropriate causes and conditions aggregate.So, therefore, whatever we experience in our life, it is not something which is has been pre-determined for us like a kind of destiny. If everything were determined by someone else, then why should we be doing any kind of activity? - instead we could be doing nothing or just simply be enjoying most of the time like on the beach wheather it is sunny or very cold.So, therefore, our understanding of karma should be that, whatever we experience, it is of our own doing. If we are able to experience a good life, that is also our responsibility. And, if we experience something undesirable, painful, whatever, that is also of our own making.So, therefore, understanding our life experiences in this way will make things more clear. So, instead of complaining that "I do not want to go through this experience", we need to understand that, if I don't like this kind of experience, I must know that this kind of experience is brought by what kind of actions which in turn initiated by what kind of thoughts. And, therefore, I must be able to modify my actions in order to avoid that which I do not want to experience; and be able to act on those which will bring on a desirable effect. So, therefore, again, it is a matter of our own responsibility, it is a matter of our own choice. Here we can also say that it is a matter of our freedom and liberty in chosing the kind of life that we would like to experience.Then, therefore, we must understand first that, when we talk about karma, there are four fundamental aspects of karma.First of all, the relation between a particular action and a particular effect: in general terms, let us say that a positive action will necessarily bring a corresponding positive result; a positive action will never bring a negative result - so, therefore, the first idea or fundamental point in relation to karma is the certainty of the relationship - it is definate, it is an established fact that a positive cause will bring a positive result, and that a negative cause will bring a negative result. This is the first fundamental point in respect of karma principle.The second aspect is that, if one has not done a particular negative action one will never go through the experience of the consequence. No one will experience the consequence of an action not committed. So, that means that, if one is going through an unpleasant experience now, one can never deny that one is responsible for that consequential experience. One comes to this understanding: "I have this unpleasant experience. So, what must be the cause of it? How did I bring about that?" One can't complain to an outside agency or agent. So, for our experience, we can't blame anyone else. We must accept the responsibility for that.The third aspect of the karma principle is that... if one has committed an action, even if the resultant effect does not manifest now, the result will never go to waste. It is a matter of time. Whether it is a positive or negative action, the corresponding effect will eventually be experienced - no matter how long there may occur time gap between the action and the result unless it is purified by proper means. So, therefore, if we have been doing good things, we should not be dissatisfied because the result does not seem to be coming right now - because everything does notcome in a short time, as it takes time for for aggregation of causes and conditions. Suppose you are going to plant a tree: it takes at least some years for the tree to grow - likewise one should have the patience to understand that it takes time for a certain action to manifest its result, so there is a time taken.The fourth point is that unless and until we intentionally try to remove those results, by any some means that is through purification process,. by themselves they will not vanish away even after lapse of any length of time till they find the necessary conditions to manifest. Any action committed will necessarily have an]effect, unless intentional effort is made and acted consciously to remove the not yet manifested effect. And this means the practice of purification in four stages is important if one is concerned to bring a control on the undesirable consequences of any karma.Now, when we talk about purification, we definitely don't have to think about the purification of something good done. Nobody really wants to destroy the positive results of any effort one manages make.Now we are talking about negative karma the consequences of which we would not like to experince; at that point of time when committed such karma we didn't know the likely consequences or we didnt care about and therefore we acted as per our whims but later we become more aware of the nature and the consequences of our actions and so we don't want to go through the experience of the negative effect. Therefore, we have to learn to see how I can avoid the experince of the consequences of yet to materialise effects of our negative karma.The first point of the purification process is the recognition of that action as wrong or negative from the depth of ones heart.The second point is regreting, feeling remorse for such wrong action.The third requirement is thinking of not wanting to repeat this kind of action any more in the future - for whatever reason; and then, also, correspondingly, as a side action, acting on the positive side.And finally, the fourth requirement of purification process, to make it a true purification, one must recall all possible witnesses - and in many cases one doesn't even know against whom one has committed the negative actions - so therefore, one must recall all enlightened and sentient beings. So, by calling upon all of them and must feel and even verbally say "I am very very sorry, I recognize what I have done wrongly. I feel regret and remorse, so, therefore, I will never act in such ways any more." Then, if one does it truly honestly, from the depth of ones heart, then there should be no doubt of not being able to purify any negative karma one might have.accummulated in time. One must be able to practice this kind of purification long enough to gain real satisfaction and confidence in the purification practice.So, this is the kind of understanding in relation to the karma one must develope. Whatever we experience good or bad, in our live, that is the effect of the karma that we would definitely have accummulated during ones existence.Then one also needs to understand that sometimes one works and becomes successful but sometimes one fails even though one works equally good - in such circumstances, one must understand that due to some of the components necessary causes and conditions not being completely aggregated, the desired results may not materialise. It is important to know that for any result to materialise all necessary components of the cause and conditions be complete...If one doesnt like certain things to happen, then one must know and be sure that there are no causes and conditions that may bring about such happening.So, this is the meaning of karma, as understood in Buddhism, explained in short and simple language.
Question: Geshe-la, one last question - not to abuse of the time you very kindly gave us. Nowadays there are many media available that potentially could be used by anybody. Buddhism always makes a point in saying that whatever has meaning to a person must be acquired by their own experience - it doesn't come from the outside, as you have explained.So... question applied to the new technologies and especially something which I know is also close to your heart: computers, Internet, software, all kinds of digital appliances and facilities that we have nowadays... how can they be used for each individual, and allindividuals, to acquire their own experience which will lead them in a positive direction?
Geshe Sherap: Actually, now this kind of technology that we are having is not much different from the things that we have been using. Only thing... this kind of technologies advance and much more ... can be utilized much more effectively.So, this is not a totally new thing. It is something we already know about - like the telephone we have been using, the television we have been using, and the communications systems that we have.The only difference we have here with computers, the Internet and this kind of thing is that they have a much more... capability of integrating many things. Now you can integrate sounds, visuals, this kind of thing. So, this is a very very useful kind of communicating system made available to us. Now, as a human being, we need to also utilise whatever best things are available to us, actively and in a good way.So, here, the importance is to use these available tools for our benefit, not to bring us harm in a long-term process... we have to check that this does not bring us harm in a disguised way. This is something we need to know, otherwise it is a very very useful tool [through] which, within a very short span of time, we can really communicate with other people and all the information available can be shared with a lot of people around the world, without any kind of boundaries - and this is the best part of it.The only thing I have to say about this thing is that we should be able to benefit by this thing and we should see that this kind of tool does not become another additional source of suffering and the creation of negativity.
Question: Geshe-la, this is a request now. Since you spend all of your life teaching and helping others to learn how to help themselves and the world - how can we help you do this?
Geshe Sherap: (laughter) OK...By using the technology of computers, Internet and this kind of thing, by utilizing the hardwares and softwares and all the integration interfaces .... of course, whatever is there available for sharing with people, if we are able to present them to research tools, the maximum number of people will be easily accessible to this kind of resources - that is the best part of it.And here it is not only the texts you see, [but] you hear the sounds, you see the images, and the active [interaction] is there, people can also ask questions, people can see the answers, all this kind of thing ... the facility is there.So if it is utilized, I think it can be a very very influential and beneficial [tool?], and, therefore, I would like to take advantage of this thing. What I would like to share with people... I will be very happy to share through this technique.
Question: Thank you very much.
24 August 2002 Interview with: GESHE NGAWANG SHERAPconducted during Geshe Sherap's course on'How to Deal with Emotions in Daily Life'held from the 14th to the 25th of August, 2002 at the Albagnano Healing Meditation Centre.
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